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5th digital society Concept Conference

Overview

  • Date and time: May 17, 2022 (2022) (Tue) from 15:00 to 16:30
  • Location: Online * Private
  • Agenda:
    1. Opening
    2. Proceedings
      1. Revision (draft) of Priority plan toward the realization of digital society
      2. Solicitation of Opinions from the Public toward the Priority plan Revision (Report on Results)
    3. Adjournment

Materials

*Regarding the Cabinet Decision Document, please check it from digital society for the realization of Priority plan .

Minutes

Office: This is As it has become a fixed time, the "digital society Concept Conference" will be held from now on.

At the outset, I have an announcement from the Secretariat.

Today's meeting will be held online.

In addition, in accordance with the Guidelines for Operation of the Conference, I would like to confirm with Chairman Murai that today's meeting will be held in a closed format. Please note that the minutes will be made public after the Cabinet decision in Priority plan, which will be discussed today.

Thank you very much, Mr. Murai.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, . I am Chairman Murai. Nice to meet you.

Thank you for taking the time to join us today.

As you just stated, I hope that today's meeting will be the final meeting for the Cabinet decision on Priority plan. Thank you.

I understand that ten members, including myself, are scheduled to attend today's meeting, and two members, Mr. Ikeda and Mr. Mikitani, will be absent. I understand that Mr. Muraoka is scheduled to leave in the middle of the meeting. Thank you.

From Digital Agency, Mr. Makishima, Parliamentary Senior Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs Kobayashi, and Parliamentary Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs Yamada attended the meeting.

Then, first of all, I would like to receive greetings from Minister for Digital Transformation Makishima. Thank you very much.

Makishima Minister for Digital Transformation: Best regards

Thank you very much for taking the time to participate in the digital society Concept Conference today, Chairman Murai, and for organizing it. I would like to express my gratitude to all the members.

As I stated at the previous meeting, with regard to Priority plan toward the realization of digital society, which has been discussed in the plenary session thus far, I would like to swiftly incorporate the necessary measures and make an update at the timing in summer, when many government plans are compiled every year, which is the normal schedule.

I visited Estonia, Finland, and Germany during the Golden Week holidays and a little after that.

This was my first overseas trip since the establishment of Digital Agency, and Estonia became the second country in Digital Agency to sign the MOC.

In Finland, I have met with four ministers related to digital.

The German G7 Minister for Digital Transformation Conference and the Japanese Minister for Digital Transformation finally became able to participate in the Minister for Digital Transformation Conference. When I speak with the ministers of each country, I feel that digital society's expectations and Issue are common to each country. I am aware once again of the importance of working on Japan's digital measures while always being aware of an international perspective.

In addition, various countries have expressed high interest in Digital Agency's efforts. There are countries that need to create a organization like Digital Agency in the future, and there are similar countries, but I would like to know how many steps we are taking to clear the Issue. In particular, with regard to Priority plan, Priority plan is creating a road map every year. Some people highly appreciated the work of Digital Agency and the Japanese people. This is also the result of your guidance, so I would like to express my gratitude.

I would like you to discuss the Priority plan proposal that I will present at today's meeting. Based on the contents of your discussions today, I will update Priority plan and continue to receive your candid opinions toward the realization of Japan's digital society that should be proud of the world. I will make an announcement in a timely manner. Thank you very much.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, Makishima.

Then, I would like to start the proceedings immediately.

First of all, I would like to ask the Secretariat to explain (1) and (2) of the agenda.

Office: This is Office. Nice to meet you.

First of all, I would like to thank you for participating in the advance review hosted by Chairman Murai last week. As for the opinions expressed on the spot, I am aware that I have sent a correspondence table to each committee member to confirm how they were described in Priority plan. Taking that into account, I have organized them in Material 1-1, and I will explain based on Material 1-1.

First of all, I have sent it to you in advance, so I would like to give you a brief explanation.

First of all, with regard to the basic indicators for measuring the progress of digitalization, based on your recent comments, I would like to state that we will set the degree of progress of the six ideal societies, as well as the satisfaction levels and utilization rates of the people and companies in private sector.

Next, with regard to the Issue of Security, I stated that we will promote efforts based on the recognition that the Issue is to ensure the resilience of the Issue against changes in the international situation that could develop into a digital society of Security, large-scale earthquakes, and other disasters.

Please go to the next page.

Regarding the research on measures based on new technologies such as so-called Web3.0, I have set up a new item in the upper section. In the latter part, I will write about the recognition of Issue and the situation of various situations, and I will state that we will conduct survey and research, grasp Issue, and improve the use environment from (1).

Please go to the next page.

A society in which no one is left behind, which is also the mission of Digital Agency, is also described as the establishment of a service design system, including the development of terminals and equipment according to the types and degrees of various disabilities, the institutionalization of the Digital Promotion Committee, and the gradual expansion of the target.

Next, please.

The so-called Digital Policy Consultation is also advancing discussions, and a comprehensive review plan for regulation will be formulated. In the main text, I will write in detail about the framework, such as (2) thorough implementation of digital principles, and support for local governments's efforts.

Next, I would like to talk about Digital Garden City. First of all, as for the relationship between area, at the top, at the bottom of the upper frame, it is stated that this is exactly the kind of effort to draw out the power of area communities and promote the independence of Vision for a Digital Garden City Nation. In addition, I would like to write about the content of the basic policies that will be formulated at another meeting.

Next, it is page 6.

In relation to the National Strategies, as you mentioned earlier, we are promoting bilateral efforts, so I would like to write about that as well as for next year's G7.

In addition, in the lower part, I wrote about Trust in relation to the comprehensive data strategy.

The next page, please. It's page 7.

In this regard, as discussions continue in the so-called My Number Working Group, first of all, in terms of total design, we are describing efforts to realize highly convenient digital services, such as the realization of push-type services for residents of public service.

At the bottom, there are dots, dots, and dots, but in the following part of the "Review" section, for example, when information on individuals is updated, it will be possible to notify and provide updated information to organizations that need the latest information. It will be possible to update information between public authorities in real time, and the use of information on residents in local government will be promoted first.

Next, I would like to point out that it is a mechanism in which the person can use his or her own information digitally as a starting point, and that information can be used through the person.

Next page, please. It's page 8.

In the discussions of the same My Number Working Group, we have proposed a review of My Number System in addition to Total Design. In addition to ensuring the thorough use of My Number in the current systems, pensions and social security, as stated in the fifth part, we are writing about teachers and administrative scriveners because digitalization, such as national certification, outside the so-called three fields of social security system and tax system, which are in high demand, are useful to users. We are also writing about expanding the scope of My Number from the so-called three fields to cover administrative work related to such qualifications.

Next is page 9.

This is how cards should be used. In addition to thoroughly promoting the use of cards, which was discussed the other day, I would like to state that we will consider how cards should be used in convenience, including responses to new encryption algorithms and next version of the My Number Card measures.

In addition, in the lower part, we provide additional functions for the application called Visit Japan Web, so I will write about it.

Next is page 10.

Regarding the so-called semi-public sector, on page 10, I wrote about PHR and personal health record in medical and long-term care and other prefectures, and in the lower column, I wrote about promoting the use of education Database and the environmental development necessary for it.

It is page 11.

On page 11, in relation to the so-called disaster risk management, we will share information on the collection of information, means of communication to people, and information on support with private business.

In addition, it also describes the sophistication of support systems for procurement of goods, procurement of transportation, etc.

Please go to the next page.

Page 12 is about the relationship between children. Regarding the so-called children, regarding the data connections for children with difficulties, we describe the Issue for using the validation for push-type support.

It is page 13.

With regard to regulatory reform, I am aware that the regulatory reform Promotion Conference will be compiling the plan, so I am writing that we will make steady efforts based on the compilation.

In addition, in the lower part, since the Cashless Payment Act was passed by the Hontsu Tsunekuni Association, based on that, it is stated that the ideal way of the system is also considered firmly, rather than being implemented separately by each ministry.

Next is page 14.

As you can see on page 14, the information systems of ministries and agencies in cloud service, which is the so-called Digital infrastructure, will be sequentially transferred to Government Cloud from fiscal year 2023 onward. This will be the transition.

In addition, in the lower part, we describe the accuracy of registration, etc.

It is page 15.

On page 15, first of all, I wrote about the digitalization of the court-related procedures, and I also wrote that we will steadily advance the standardization of systems in digital society and other regions.

It is page 16.

On page 16, we summarize our development policies for optical fibers, 5G, data centers, and undersea cables as part of the development of infrastructure that supports digitalization.

Next is page 17.

It is about digital human resources. Regarding the human resources who will be responsible for digital society, we have a female digital human resources development plan, so we are stating based on that plan.

I gave a brief explanation based on Document 1-1, but there are Documents 1-2 and 1-3, as well as the outline and the main body, so I would like you to discuss them by referring to them as appropriate.

Next is Material 2.

Last time, I said that I would ask the people for their opinions on Material 2, and I did so.

First, it's the first page.

We used the Digital Agency Idea Box to solicit ideas from April 15 to May 5. We received a total of about 200 opinions in response to three questions set in advance. I would like to introduce them below.

Page 2, please.

It is about the realization of A digital society where no one left behind. We received opinions on securing safety so that people, including children, the elderly, and the disabled, do not become victims of SNS and the Internet, and opinions on direct payments to welfare recipients.

It is the third page.

This is about the creation and growth of start-up companies. In order to prevent the shortage of human resources such as IT engineers, we received opinions on promoting efforts such as female engineers, changes from other industries, and training at the university level, as well as opinions on simplifying the procedures for registering the establishment of a company.

It is page 4.

In addition, as a general opinion toward the realization of a rich digital society, we received a wide range of requests such as the study and request of a mechanism to break the faxism of public office and to invite opinions widely to the world, and the request that we should break the paper culture of schools and promote DX like a company.

Please go to the next page.

As for these opinions, as you can see in the middle, I utilized them to expand each part described in the next Priority plan proposal, which is shown today. In addition, in relation to the opinions this time, as Mr. Natsuno proposed last time, I would like to announce that I have responded to the main opinions, including the content of the responses, and I would like to express my gratitude for that and the fact that I have made it public as a comment to each of you.

That's all. Thank you very much.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

With regard to the next Priority plan that you just explained, I would like to hear your opinions and move on to discussions. I have received the opinions of Mr. Ikeda, who is absent today, in Handout 3. Of course, as you have just explained, the process of reflecting your opinions in Priority plan, including your opinions in advance, is already underway.

Now, I would like to hear your opinions. Is it okay to click the button of a show of hands? Or you can chat with me, but I would like to ask you to help me a little so that I will be aware of it.

I have heard that Member Muraoka will leave the office in the middle of the meeting, so if you don't mind, I would like to ask you to speak first. Thank you.

Muraoka Member: I am Muraoka, Governor of Yamaguchi Prefecture, .

Thank you for your consideration. Then, I would like to make a statement first.

First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to Foreign Minister Makishima, State Minister Kobayashi, and the people of Digital Agency for their great efforts in compiling this proposal.

At the previous meeting, I made a statement from the perspective of the Vision for a Digital Garden City Nation, in particular, on the part where there are strong requests from governors across the country. The content of that statement has been reflected in the draft plan this time, and I would like to agree with the direction of the draft plan. I would like to state my opinions on four points toward making it effective in the future, in particular, leading to the realization of the revitalization of local communities and the bottom-up growth from local communities that Tokyo aims to achieve.

First, I would like to talk about securing and developing digital human resources. Last time, I mentioned that there is a shortage of digital human resources in rural areas, and that the uneven distribution of digital human resources in urban areas is large in Issue. Regarding this, on page 34 of the report, it is mentioned about securing digital human resources. It is important for all the working population to acquire digital literacy against the shortage of digital human resources. We will develop such environments. In addition, it is also stated that we aim to develop 2.3 million digital promotion human resources by fiscal 2026.

In addition, regarding the elimination of uneven distribution in urban areas, it includes the promotion of the return of human resources to area based on the Strategic Package for the Repatriation of Digital Human Resources to area, and I am very grateful for the efforts to create a flow of people to rural areas in addition to resolving the shortage of human resources.

The shortage of digital human resources in rural areas is an urgent Issue for both the public and private sectors, so I would like to ask you to take concrete measures like this as soon as possible so that human resources can grow in rural areas and human resources can flow back from urban areas.

The second point is, also in relation to Vision for a Digital Garden City Nation, the presentation of the area Vision for the realization of the Concept, which is written on page 35. In it, after the smart cities Vision categories, such as area, Super City, and "Digi-katsu" Hilly and Mountainous area, are shown, the support menu that can be used for each category is presented in an easy-to-understand manner, and it is shown that local autonomous efforts will be further encouraged. As I said at the previous meeting, in order to promote Digital implementation in local areas, the actual conditions differ from area to prefecture, so I think it is important to take effective measures in accordance with the actual conditions. Regarding the support system for that purpose, there are many requests from each prefecture, so I would like to continue to ask you to consider the support system from this perspective.

The third point is the improvement of the area system for the development of IT companies in procurement. In the Government procurement digitalization on page 105, it is included that the procurement of the local government system will also expand the number of players by promoting the entry of startups, etc., and that discussions will be advanced on measures including digital marketplaces to speed up the procurement. While the needs of area are diversifying, in order to advance the App development, etc., to provide services that respond to this with a sense of speed in an agile manner, it is effective to collaborate with startups, etc., that have such technologies. Therefore, I hope that the introduction of the marketplace shown here will lead to the introduction of excellent technologies that startups, etc. development in local efforts.

In addition, there are IT companies with advanced technologies in the area. The growth of such companies will lead to the revitalization of the area. I would like to see IT companies in the region participate in these efforts and advance them in a way that leads to the expansion of opportunities for receiving orders.

My fourth and final question is about infrastructure development. Page 129 lists specific measures for optical fiber, 5G, and other technologies.

First of all, we aim to increase the household coverage ratio of optical fibers to 99.9% by the end of fiscal 2027. We also aim to establish a new Issue Fee Scheme for broadband services. However, as I said last time, there are still remote islands, mountainous areas, and area where conditions are extremely severe. In order to rapidly implement development in area, we need more generous support than before. I would like to ask again for the expansion of the subsidy system and the early realization of the universal service system.

Also, regarding 5G, it is said that we aim to achieve a population coverage of 99% nationwide and in each prefecture by the end of fiscal 2030, but development is currently underway mainly in urban areas, and rural areas are lagging behind. In the draft plan, it is indicated that we will work on support, including the use of infrastructure sharing, for regions with geographically disadvantageous conditions. We have high expectations for 5G, but I believe that national leadership will be important in advancing this, so I would like to ask the national government to take the lead in efforts to achieve the development target. I would like to ask the area to take the lead in efforts to achieve the development target.

Finally, regarding the draft plan, opinions are currently being invited from local organizations, including the National Governors' Association. The Governors' Association will summarize the opinions from each prefecture and respond to them. I believe that it is necessary for the central and local governments to work together to advance effective initiatives for the development of measures based on the next plan toward the realization of digital society in Japan, so I would like to ask you to continue to actively incorporate the voices of the local governments, including what I talked about today.

That's all from me.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

Then, I would like to ask you, Members of the Commonwealth, to continue.

Country Member: First of all, I would like to express my heartfelt respect for this difficult coordination. I believe it is extremely important to continue such efforts.

As I explained at the prior review the other day, I would like to make a statement because I would like you to understand that I also have political affairs today.

At the beginning of page 50 of the main body of (1) of Document 1-3, it says, "We will consider data standardization, systematization, and assignment of identification numbers to provide information on various regions in a list according to the needs of users, with reference to cases overseas and results in public service." I feel that this is very significant. private sector

If we compare the current public service distribution system to the retail distribution industry, it is like a supermarket when there was only a customer ID and no JAN code for identifying products. Although there are budget codes and law numbers assigned from the perspective of suppliers, there is no product menu and ID that is organized across manufacturers and providers from the perspective of consumers, so it is not possible to aggregate public service from the perspective of users. I think it is like a supermarket in the 1965 s when it was a hand-made cash register, but I feel that it is not only inefficient, but also a major cause that the government is divided into vertical divisions of supplier logic and that the government and local government services cannot be operated integrally.

So, it may be difficult to correct the sentence now, but I think it is essential for administrative DX, so it is currently written that the grant will be examined by referring to overseas cases and results in private sector, but if you could go one step further and consider the grant by referring to overseas cases and results in private sector, I think the world would move forward. By doing this, I think it will be possible to build a system through public-private cooperation and to evaluate the administration based on the evidence base from the people's perspective.

One more point. Regarding the outline sheet of Material 1-2, I think the five principles proposed by the Ad Hoc Committee, the five principles of the Digital Ad Hoc Committee, are very good. They only mention that such principles exist, and it may be difficult to disclose them because they are under different jurisdictions, but in explaining them to the world, the five principles and Priority plan are working together. That is what the text says. Therefore, I thought it would be good if you could explain them while showing a sense of unity.

That's all.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

Then, Mr. Noda, may I speak to you?

Member: Thank you, Thank you very much.

Thank you very much for making a comprehensive plan. I think it was really a hard work for the secretariat. I appreciate it. In addition, thank you for your careful response to the points I pointed out in the previous preliminary review.

The first point, the image of the society we want to achieve through digital, was included in the form of promoting efforts to draw out the power of area communities and promote the independence of area. I believe that it is very important to clearly position digital as a tool to draw out the power of area communities and the power of citizens, and that is why I believe that the importance of developing human resources by properly developing infrastructure in local areas will be understood.

He also added another indicator on the progress of the six regions. It is an important plan that he has made, so how to implement it is more important than anything else. However, of course, Digital Agency alone cannot advance all the plans, so it is essential that each ministry, agency, Priority plan, and each stakeholder cooperate and make efforts. As the control tower, Digital Agency will disclose to the people in an easy-to-understand manner what has advanced and how far it has gone, and if it has not advanced, what the cause is, and everyone will cooperate and advance it. I think it is very important for Okinawa to play a part in properly circulating such a cycle. local government

When disclosing, it is very important to be easy to understand, that is, simple. private sector companies create dashboards to manage the progress of management. They use easy-to-understand red, yellow, and green signals, such as green if things are going well, yellow if things need attention, and red if things are not moving forward. They visualize what is moving forward and what is causing it in a simple and easy-to-understand manner. I think that dashboards are very effective as a basis for everyone involved to think together about what Issue is, how far we have achieved, and what is necessary.

At the beginning of the meeting, Minister Makishima said that Japanese digital initiatives are actually excellent and are being worked hard even from the overseas perspective. From the perspective of international communication, I believe that by showing easy-to-understand indicators in the form of a dashboard in a visualized form, it will be possible for overseas to understand that Japanese initiatives are going well and that we have made progress to this point.

In particular, it is extremely important for the Government of Japan to make it visible and internationally communicate that various things have been advancing since the launch of Digital Agency in September last year, so I would like you to consider this.

That's all. Thank you.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

Then, Mr. Ota, please.

Member: Thank you, Thank you very much.

I believe that the three major policies are already in place, but I think that the two should be discussed in depth after the Priority plan is announced. As I mentioned at the My Number Working Group, I believe that the Digital Safety Net is a very good policy. As I said at the Working Group, we cannot implement a push-type system unless we know the status of the people, such as their income, so I think that the representative one is income information. However, the government only has very old information, so monthly income information is available. So, how can we collect this information, including for gig workers? As I said at that meeting, we cannot collect monthly income information unless we cooperate with the personnel and salary system and private sector services, although the consent of the person in question is a prerequisite. So I think it is very important to announce that we will start studying this matter immediately. This is a really big infrastructure development, so I think it is better to start studying it soon. That is one thing.

The second is that My Number Card will spread more and more in the future, and as it is written here, the actual situation of eKYC. I don't know much about the current situation of digital identity verification, eKYC, and what will happen in the future. About two years ago, there was a small review meeting on eKYC at the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry with NEDO, but I think it was a deliberate decision, but it was a rather halfhearted review without mentioning My Number Card.

A good story is that recently, the use of My Number Card for eKYC by LINE and Mercari has been spreading rapidly, and the use of identity verification and the use of private sector's services as well as government services have been increasing. In the meantime, the card, which has been equipped with a secure element internationally, will be able to use identity verification built into mobile phones and smartphones in about two years. If we properly consider what kind of future image we will create, I think we will be able to issue a very interesting roadmap. So, I think it would be good for Digital Agency to take the lead in eKYC and consider it with private sector, and I think it would be good to include the launch of eKYC. This is my second point.

The third point is that this is a slightly different story in nature, but when we talk about a digital society, we only talk about human beings. I think Mr. Kitano of the Sony Computer Science Laboratories said about a year ago in the Data Task Force or something else, various evidence is emerging that biodiversity is very important for human beings. In January of this year, a project to change biodiversity to "City is City" was launched at the World Economic Forum. How to create biodiversity is a very big social agenda, and digital technology is being used more and more.

To be more specific, I think it is a base registry. Northern Europe, where you visited, has a very rich base registry of biodiversity. However, in Japan, we don't know much about the situation, and the mountains are rough, and the rice fields are left alone in the mountains. Nature is not in a good state, so we call it Digital Garden City, but we don't have basic information. There are various projects being conducted by the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries and the Ministry of the Environment, so biodiversity is very important, and digital is very useful. I think the green infrastructure project being conducted by iConstruction is a very good example, but there is not much point cloud data or data.

Therefore, in the Base Registry, we will also work on biodiversity and well-being. At that time, the importance of digital technology may be considered in the future, but if there is an opportunity to start something in Priority plan, as there was in the World Economic Forum, there is no doubt that it is an area where talent and money gather, so I think it would be great if there was such an opportunity.

That's all.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

Then, Mr. Koshizuka, please go ahead.

Koshizuka Member: Thank you, Thank you very much.

I am sorry that I was unable to attend the preliminary review in a hurry the other day, but given this situation, I would like to make a few comments on five points.

So far, as you have mentioned, I would like to thank you very much for the extremely extensive compilation, which makes me feel once again that the field of digital is so extensive. I fully agree with the purpose of this compilation, and there is no particular point that should be modified. However, I would like to say some things that I think are extremely important, particularly from the perspective of working on various data.

Out of this huge amount, data connections is written in many places, and there are actually about 60 places if I count the number, and I feel that Issue is very large in terms of whether the efforts to link data are themselves coordinated, and I would very much like to see such efforts with synergy in data connections.

My first question is about the philosophy. I believe that DFFT is very important. It is being sent out to the world. In the digital field, it is difficult to come up with such a philosophy, but it has been put out. As you said earlier, the G7 will be held next fiscal year, so I would like the G7 to make efforts to promote DFFT. In twenty twenty-five, two years later, there will be the Osaka World Expo, and smart cities and data connections in the Expo are being greatly considered, so I believe that we can make a global appeal by cooperating with each other. I would like DFFT to be put forward.

The second is the platform described in the text on pages 46 and 47. I have high expectations for the efforts of DATA-EX, the inter-field data connections foundation that I am promoting. This fiscal year, the research project of SIP, which is the foundation, will be completed, and the results will be provided to DSA, which is also described here, and the activities toward the actual operation will also begin. In this regard, our DSA will do its best to work toward the actual operation, but I would like to ask for active support and cooperation from various people. In addition, at this time, it is extremely important to cooperate with foreign countries and international data connections. As you said earlier that you went to Estonia and Germany and achieved results, we have already concluded an agreement with GAIA-X in Europe as a result of this year's efforts. We have become the Japan Hub of GAIA-X.

In this regard, international cooperation is also steadily advancing in the data field, and values are becoming increasingly divided in the world. However, in the field of digital and IT, we have expressed our values in DFFT, so I would like to propose that we can make efforts to include the world in the data field and that we can do so even amid this division.

The third is the base registry, which I believe is also very important. As I explained earlier, our efforts are about the platform and system. What goes into it is data, so it is important to properly maintain it. It is not certain that another national crisis will occur in Japan, but the novel coronavirus is still occurring and will continue to occur. In such a case, if individuals cannot be identified, land cannot be identified, and buildings cannot be identified, it is difficult to respond quickly. I think this is the lesson I learned from the response to the Great East Japan Earthquake 10 years ago and the novel coronavirus infection now. I think this is a very low-key activity that is not flashy, but I think it is also very important.

One thing that I think was somewhat missing was the standardization and systemization of public service's own data, as Professor Kokuryo said earlier. As Professor Kokuryo said earlier, I don't think this is included in the base registry. I also think this is extremely important, so I think it would be good if you could make an effort.

The fourth is open data. In Priority plan, there are many contents that say we will do this kind of thing from now on. I think it will be a little encouraging to say that we have already achieved such results. In the case of local local government, 70% of them have already completed open data. In fact, 1,200 local government have completed open data. When I started doing this, I thought there were thousands and hundreds of open data, and it would take years to negotiate each local government. But now, thanks to the efforts of various governments, people in local government, communities like Code for, and open data evangelists, the number of open data has expanded to this point. In fact, there are still about 500 left, but I hope you will not relax your activities. I think these results were very significant.

Last but not least, smart cities itself is data-driven and is working in various places. However, in terms of the country, there are initiatives by smart cities and Digita, as well as Super City, National Strategic Special Zone, and MaaS. There are quite a few different menus. It tends to be confusing, so of course, I think there are personalities depending on the policy, but I think it would be good if we could proceed in an easy-to-understand manner, with synergies and individual characteristics neatly colored. The digital field is moving very fast like a dog year, but in a sense, this is a different area from our current digital field of community development and city planning. This is an area that takes a lot of time, so I think long-term efforts are important, and I think it would be good if we could proceed in that way. smart cities

That's all.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, Thank you very much.

Then, Wakamiya member, please.

Wakamiya Member: This is Wakamiya.

Thank you very much for the enormous amount of work in a short period of time. What I would like to say is, first of all, as there will be a Digital Day, I think it is okay to emphasize a little more the awareness that all the people are involved. So, digital reform, some people are saying that Digital Agency and IT companies should do their best, but I think it is necessary to make it clear that all the people are involved. Second, for the sake of the above, I think it is necessary to raise the level of IT literacy of the entire people, between having people who are not involved in digital at all, such as digital debuts, do digital, and developing more advanced IT human resources.

For example, in the case of other countries, we can do it even if we become OB because we did it when we were active. Some Japanese people who have retired do not necessarily graduate with high IT literacy when they were active, so I thought that we would have to raise the level of all people, including OB of companies.

My third question is, when various measures are announced, what is the purpose of doing this? For example, My Number Card can be used instead of health insurance card. We do not know well why we do this. Therefore, we inevitably become passive. Doctors cannot be actively motivated even if patients do not particularly want to do it. Doctors will do their best if patients want to do it, but if patients say they don't care about it, they cannot be motivated. I think it is necessary to tell us what we are doing for, including public relations, in quite a few ways.

Last but not least, the principle of fairness is very important, and it is easy to understand. Everyone can upgrade their IT literacy, and everyone can understand something at each stage. From the perspective of the people, it is important to emphasize ease of understanding. Thank you very much.

That's all.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

Then, Mr. Kawabe, please go ahead.

KAWABE Member: Thank you, Thank you very much.

What I pointed out in the previous review is very much included, as other members said, so I would like to fully support and support Priority plan.

Since the Minister, the Senior Vice-Minister, and the Parliamentary Vice-Minister are here today, I would like to make a statement that overlaps with what I stated in my prior re-election.

Broadly speaking, I would like to make two points. I am really impressed that it has become a very heavy Priority plan. I understand that it is a the Beginning of Things of the digitalization of the Japanese government, so it will inevitably amount to this amount. However, it is too wide and heavy. So, the first point is that I would like to see the implementation system for this to be properly established in the future. I believe that priorities will be assigned and cases will be divided. There are various types of high-priority projects, such as projects that the Digi-cho will carry out on a hands-on basis by itself and using its own engineers, projects that will be sent outside, projects that will be entrusted to private sector, and projects that will be entrusted to each ministry and agency. I believe that it would be good to clearly separate the classifications and priorities and start work.

Since hands-on activities are the most important, if there is a shortage of personnel, I think it would be better to send more personnel to the Government in a fair manner and tell them that you would like to hire them.

In addition, I think there are many things to be done by each ministry and agency and each local government, so in that sense, I would like you to strengthen your roles as the control tower of Digital Agency. In the short term, I think it will be very personal, so I have high expectations for the leadership of Priority plan Minister for Digital Transformation, which will serve as the control tower of Makishima. In advancing this, implementation will become important from here, so I would like to make a major point that we should establish a system to prioritize.

The second major point is the content. After all, it is not very different from what an Internet company like Z Holdings is doing. It is to develop rules, infrastructure, and systems, and finally to do something about the service layer that reaches users. What we tend to do is that the backend and rules are important, so if we are only developing them, the users will be the residents and the people of Japan, and their attention will decrease, and they will not be able to feel it for a long time. So, what is the Digi-cho doing?

It is very important to establish the back-end and rules, but I think it is important to select several services that are high in priority or that will reach the residents who should be prioritized, and to make sure that the results are visible at the same time in order to impress the interest of the people and residents, so I think it would be good to proceed in that way.

Among them, what I think is particularly important is that we should be able to receive all kinds of My Number Card based on public service. Since it is an ID in the service of private sector, I think that ID should be more widely used or more convenient. Therefore, I think that it is better to be aware of the spread of My Number Card and the expansion of its use and to see the results.

In addition, as Mr. Natsuno pointed out at the time of the preliminary review, there is a regular update of the My Number, which is the ID, and it is highly likely to be complicated in the current situation. Even from the perspective of security, it is impossible for the service in private sector to discourage users from updating their ID. Therefore, I would like you to make it easy. I think I understand the meaning of the My Number as a base registry, but I believe that technology will enable us to realize a simple update procedure that replaces face-to-face confirmation of reliability and prevention of fraud. Such an update procedure should be possible without going to public office by using location information, facial recognition, and so on, so I would like you to work on it.

As for public service, I would like to see a thorough increase in services that can be used conveniently because of the presence of My Number Card. In terms of image, what has been providing uniform public service to all residents until now is "Personalized My Number Card," in which public service is customized one to-one by My Number and ID, and the optimal content of public service is delivered at the optimal timing for that person. I would like to see such a change, and I would like to feel that I have become able to receive "Personalized public service" online so much, little by little, at the same time as the system is being developed. In the case of private sector services, Japanese service providers are also involved, but GAFA is mainly involved in improving the user experience, so for residents who have become accustomed to private sector services, I would like to see the government take action.

The other is the utilization of the servicer in private sector. The servicer in private sector also cooperates in the normal resident services. In addition to that, there are many disasters in the Japanese case, so the servicer in private sector can cooperate in providing a wide range of resident services or personalized support for disaster risk management and disaster mitigation in the event of disasters. Such cooperation with private service will be promoted at the same time. As I said earlier, I believe that the background will be that residents will support and support the digitalization of the government because they feel it when they need it. I hope that you will be aware of this and work at the same time.

I would like to do my best as myself or as the servicer of private sector, so I hope that we can continue to advance the digitalization of the Japanese government together. Thank you.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

So, Natsuno-san, what do you think?

Natsuno Member: , I think you have written so much and it is comprehensive, so I have nothing to say in particular, but if we do not make a validation on the usability of My Number Card soon, it will not be renewed when the renewal is made for 5 or 10 years, so I don't think there will be an incentive of 5,000 yen each, so I will do it soon.

Also, as I said from the beginning, I would like to see the use of the My Number and the use of the card properly separated.

That's all.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, Thank you very much.

What do you think, Mr. Ito?

Member: I agree with your opinions. As I said before, there is a considerable personal bias, but I would like to use the term Web3 as much as possible to protect it. Web3 is the next movement that is the most cross-sectional and does not specify the whole thing as one technology. The Digital Administration and current Japanese society, the Prime Minister said the term Web3.0 in his speech in the United Kingdom this time, and there is a rumor that Japan is the most advanced among developed countries. If it is replaced with a technical abstract or detailed language, it will be a disaster at the beginning of a good international image, so I would like you to protect it as much as possible.

That's all.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, Thank you very much.

Then, Parliamentary Senior Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs Kobayashi and Parliamentary Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs Yamada, could you please give us your comments or opinions after listening to the discussions so far?

Senior Vice-Minister for Digital Affairs Kobayashi: Members of the Committee, thank you very much for your fulfilling discussions despite your busy schedule.

If Digital Agency is a company that Mr. Kawabe has given consideration to, I think it is difficult to give consideration to that. As you have pointed out, it is important to clean up the essential backend while providing easy-to-understand services to the general public little by little in terms of organization strategy, but I think it is what can be done with limited resources.

For example, regarding the dashboard that you pointed out, I think it is good to be able to create indicators for each item, disclose them, show progress, and make a visualization that it is progressing properly fairly quickly. Although we have not yet authorized the entire dashboard in organization to the extent that it can be written here, we are preparing for consideration. In this way, we would like to operate the organization so that people can expect it while showing progress and providing predictability.

One more thing, the eKYC that I received from Mr. Ohta. It is a combination of all things in Mynaportal, so it is a little difficult to use. However, we are preparing and organizing the concept of making it easy for the public and private sectors to use by organizing the Public Personal Authentication function, the personal identification function, and other functions. I cannot write about that yet, but I think that if we can present it as soon as possible and show the people of private sector that we can work together with predictability, we will be able to attract the smooth development of Digital Agency business while receiving expectations from private sector.

In any case, the content is quite substantial, so how to realize this will be rather about organization development and organization strategies. In this regard, Ishikuramae Chief Officer of the Digital Agency will be responsible for the launch of organization, and from here, it will become Arata Asanuma Chief Officer of the Digital Agency at the timing of strategic movement while actually expanding Digital Agency, and it has moved to the next phase. Now, Asanuma Chief Officer of the Digital Agency is fully prepared, so I will work on it so that you can think that Hamamatsu is moving forward, while presenting it to you. I believe that everyone who has created it together is the best support group, so I would like to ask many people to communicate with us. organization

In addition, since the Governor of Yamaguchi Prefecture is in Digital Agency, I believe that cooperation with local governments will be very important. If possible, I would like to create opportunities for communication with local governments as actively as possible, while ministers and we also appear. I believe that one of the significance of Yamaguchi Prefecture is that the central and local governments can work together, so I would like to ask for your cooperation.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, Thank you very much.

Parliamentary Secretary Yamada, please.

Parliamentary Vice-Minister Minister for Digital Transformation Yamada: In Priority plan this time, if I recall, on December 24 last year, until the Cabinet decision was made, there was considerable debate within the Agency about what kind of axis to take. The six policies for realization are to be, the philosophies and principles for realization are conditions, prerequisites, conditions, basic strategies, and basic measures are to do. In particular, the strategy is something that I want to show publicly and is a high priority, so I rolled up my sleeves and worked with the field to put this structure together. I am deeply moved that you are discussing the results here. I would like to thank you all and others for finally taking shape after fleshing out the original content.

In this context, I would like to explain the points that we were talking about on the ground but could not fully discuss.

First of all, I think that security by Design has not yet been fully developed. security technology was included this time due to my strong feelings about quantum cryptography, dispersion, secure computation, and so on, but I think that there are still parts that NISC must work on in terms of how to proceed in the form of security by Design.

What Wakamiya members pointed out is reasonable. I wrote about the shortage of human resources, but I wonder if it is the re-transfer of existing human resources. In the education field, to be honest, I think it is the teachers in the field who may be the most problematic. While children are much better at digital, there are teachers who give old-fashioned classes no matter how much they do DX in education. There are also doctors who are not good at PHR. In disaster risk management, there are places that still use fax machines, so I have not finished writing down how to education here. I would like to thoroughly discuss this with you by the next Priority plan.

Regarding the Base Registry, which you pointed out, in this area, the way of registration, family registry, resident record, and management unit are completely non-digital. In that sense, digitalization is also necessary, but we have been discussing on the ground that there will be a little more work to be done on the issue before that, including management by latitude and longitude, since the notation of city, ward, town, and village is insufficient. I don't think I have been able to write it properly because it has been difficult to develop measures on that point.

Cooperation with other fields is also still weak. For example, NICT is conducting considerable research on disaster risk management and quantum cryptography, but it is difficult to incorporate such points. In particular, there is a recognition that the disaster risk management field is very weak among the three fields in semi-public sector, so this is a matter of public concern, and I think there are still points that need to be strengthened.

Finally, since I have not talked about any of the three policies, I would like to say that I have to prepare a white paper, and this Priority plan is an outline. People say that they do not know what Digital Agency is doing, but as you have warmly pointed out, there are many things that we have been doing. I believe that we will be able to achieve them in about a year, and some Japanese countries are doing their best compared to other countries. In the future, we will be able to achieve our own results, although we do not yet have the man-hours and ability, by preparing a digital white paper, and validation what we have been doing in a manner similar to EBPM. I believe that there are parts that will not be conveyed to the people if we are only planning.

In that sense, I believe that we should develop our capabilities and create a digital white paper. We have been working hard to discuss various issues, and although there are still many areas that are still missing, there are areas that we are aware of, so I would appreciate if you could dig deeper into these areas and discuss various issues in the future.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

So, Arata Asanuma Chief Officer of the Digital Agency, how do you feel about listening to the discussion so far?

Asanuma Chief Officer of the Digital Agency: Thank you very much, everyone. I really appreciate your opinions.

With regard to the summary of Priority plan, I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Digital Agency and all the people concerned for their good work.

As the next step, what is important is how to steadily implement this, show the progress to the people, gain their understanding, and proceed with it together with the people concerned. You mentioned that you would like to put indicators on the dashboard. As you pointed out that it is also important to have easy-to-understand communication, people involved in this plan may read it thoroughly, but ordinary people do not read all of it, so I hope that we can improve communication in the future, including how it will actually change the lives of the people.

From the perspective of organization in Digital Agency, there are about three roles. In addition to implementing measures based on Priority plan, I believe there are roles to properly create a digital vision in the future, roles to lead each ministry and agency and compile digital measures while creating strategies, and roles to actually conduct and operate development. Regarding this, as for how much resources and focus we will actually advance, we will have strategies as organization and share them with you, and we will firmly compile them so that Digital Agency's roles can be shared. I would like to ask for your continued support.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

I would like to ask you if you have left anything to be said before closing the meeting. What do you think? Is that all right?

If you don't mind, after this, at a regular government meeting, we will leave it to the chairman to coordinate with the Secretariat. Since this is a Cabinet decision, we will ask you to coordinate at the Cabinet meeting. So, regarding today's talk, or any points that were missed or that were noticed, I would like to close by asking the Digi-cho, ministers, and government officials to do what they can to move toward a Cabinet decision. In my discussions so far, I have been worried that if the end of the word ends with "I will consider it," there will be concerns about whether or not we will actually do it. However, I would like you to consider whether or not the three letters of "For" by Mr. Kokuryo, which I mentioned earlier, can be included.

Regarding the issue of open data, I remember well the process in which the number of prefectures becomes 100%, but it will gradually spread. However, I think it is very important to continue to make the evaluation as Mr. Noda said open, including the dashboard that was mentioned in today's discussion. The dashboard is exactly the one in which various people evaluate, analyze, and make proposals, and it must be kept around for a long time. In particular, what was pointed out in today's various situations is that it is very important to connect with the people around here, or to connect to the next data analysis, so even if the number of prefectures becomes 100%, the content must be updated at all times, and it must be used well, which I think has a very important role.

I would like to say that, and then ask the Secretariat and the Parliamentary Affairs Department to make final arrangements for the Cabinet decision, and the Priority plan will be decided.

In that case, that's all for the progress of my agenda, so I would like to have a comment from Minister Makishima at the end. Thank you.

Makishima Minister for Digital Transformation: Thank you very much.

Today, I am encouraged by the more specific comments from the professors and the encouragement they gave to Digital Agency as a whole.

As Chairman Murai said in his closing remarks today, I would like to take the next step after accumulating further feedback, including today's comments, as well as brushing up and updating as much as possible. On December 24, the Digi-cho launched its first Priority plan. In terms of schedule, it is already Christmas and the end of the year, and it was a very good Priority plan, but I believe that the media coverage was poor.

Therefore, the first priority was the establishment of the Digi-Agency three months after its establishment, and this time, based on the content of the Digi-Agency, which has been enhanced more than six months later, the priority is to issue the next step. In addition, I would like to make an appeal so that many people will pay attention to Priority plan, and so that each and every Japanese can understand digitalization as their own matter, and so that it will lead to a real feeling of how Kyushu will improve our lives. I would like to ask for your continued support. Thank you very much.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

Then, please tell us the communication from the office.

Office: This is Office.

I would like to inform you of two points.

My first question is that the materials for the plenary session will be released on the Priority plan website after the next Cabinet decision in Digital Agency is made. Until then, please be aware of the handling of the materials.

In addition, as I stated at the beginning, the Secretariat will contact the members tomorrow or later to confirm the content of the minutes, and after confirmation, the minutes will be disclosed in the same manner after the Priority plan is decided.

The second point is that the next meeting has not been decided at this point. The secretariat will contact you when the next meeting is held. Thank you.

That's all.

Chairman Murai: Thank you, .

With that said, I would like to close the fifth "digital society Concept Conference."

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to give us your valuable opinions and participate.

That's all. Thank you very much.